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How long has he been at Collingwood?
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Hine has been very average (as average as Buckley has been) in the last 3 years so he won't be a great loss.

You will find that Jason Taylor made Derek Hine. Taylor went to Melbourne in 2012 and since then our drafting has been diabolical and theirs has been great.

There needs to be an external review of the football department at the end of the year. Every position including the new coach has to be looked at.
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Hine is not the messiah people seem to think he is.

Look at the kennedy, Grundy, broomhead draft as an example!
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JamesJ wrote:Hine has been very average (as average as Buckley has been) in the last 3 years so he won't be a great loss.

You will find that Jason Taylor made Derek Hine. Taylor went to Melbourne in 2012 and since then our drafting has been diabolical and theirs has been great.

There needs to be an external review of the football department at the end of the year. Every position including the new coach has to be looked at.
I wouldn't call drafting Dawes, Harry and Kennedy great
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I shall take your word on the Taylor issue.
Melbourne have certainly recruited superbly in recent years.
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CarringbushCigar wrote:I shall take your word on the Taylor issue.
Melbourne have certainly recruited superbly in recent years.
Jason Taylor was basically the person who spotted Beams in QLD and followed up with him for years. Is a chapter on it in one of Emma Quyales draft books. Beams is the last A Grader we have drafted.
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Dark Beanie wrote:How long has he been at Collingwood?
Hine took over from Noel Judkins with his first draft in the year 2005 I think.
I have wrote plenty of posts on Hine and Judkins, can't be bothered going back over the details.
But there is plenty of conjecture about exactly when he took over.
Judkins came from Essendon and Hine was one of Judkins contacts or scouts.
Anyway, everybody knows my thoughts on Hine.
we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest.
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Re: Rumour - Derek Hine to Richmond

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CarringbushCigar wrote:Looks like Pert and Maguire are shafting another premiership hero in order to cover up our coach's appalling people skills. 2016 may be remembered for the exit of Hine Cloke and Brown and retaining the most failed coach in the history of our football club.

It's a disgrace.
Yeah that's exactly what's happening with Collingwood - funny you only post to bag the club in particular Buckley & Eddie, are you ok? do you need a hug?

if I was going to shake the club up - Hine (chief recruiter) would be the first person I'd look at!
There is Collingwood and then the rest.
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Re: Rumour - Derek Hine to Richmond

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Darkstranger wrote:
CarringbushCigar wrote:Looks like Pert and Maguire are shafting another premiership hero in order to cover up our coach's appalling people skills. 2016 may be remembered for the exit of Hine Cloke and Brown and retaining the most failed coach in the history of our football club.

It's a disgrace.
Yeah that's exactly what's happening with Collingwood - funny you only post to bag the club in particular Buckley & Eddie, are you ok? do you need a hug?

if I was going to shake the club up - Hine (chief recruiter) would be the first person I'd look at!
Agreed.
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If he has another club lined up already then he isn't being shafted, if anything he's choosing to leave.
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mattys123 wrote:If he has another club lined up already then he isn't being shafted, if anything he's choosing to leave.
Well Hine once said "I get the cattle but it is up to the Club to turn them out."
Maybe he is unhappy the way his prized picks have been trained up.
Just saying but I wouldn't know.
we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest.
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mattys123 wrote:If he has another club lined up already then he isn't being shafted, if anything he's choosing to leave.
Or he has seen the writing on the wall when Gubby came in.
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JamesJ wrote:
mattys123 wrote:If he has another club lined up already then he isn't being shafted, if anything he's choosing to leave.
Or he has seen the writing on the wall when Gubby came in.
yes, it maybe is this.
I wonder if we ever will know the right reason.
But he has to leave first for any speculation to turn into fact.
we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest.
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Is Hine good at his job or not? I don't know. Much as I take the same position about Buckley, it is because of the injury situation. If Scharenberg, Broomhead, Young and Freeman et al all had a couple of years of good consistent football behind them we may know the answer. I can't explain Russell, Armstrong or Golds though.
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Re: Rumour - Derek Hine to Richmond

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Darkstranger wrote:
CarringbushCigar wrote:Looks like Pert and Maguire are shafting another premiership hero in order to cover up our coach's appalling people skills. 2016 may be remembered for the exit of Hine Cloke and Brown and retaining the most failed coach in the history of our football club.

It's a disgrace.
Yeah that's exactly what's happening with Collingwood - funny you only post to bag the club in particular Buckley & Eddie, are you ok? do you need a hug?

if I was going to shake the club up - Hine (chief recruiter) would be the first person I'd look at!
I'm fine thanks. I'm hardly critical of Eddie apart from the Buckley extensions and social club issues and his knock down dock lands plan. Hardly on my pat Malone on these issues.

I'm a fan of Langdon pre hairstyle
I love Maynard and Ramsay
I like Grundy smith and Crocker
Broomy seeds and bk have potentially been mismanaged
Freeman and Shazz unknowns
I'd suggest his strike rate with high draft picks is still right up there
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