Yes, that was the first name that came to mind, actually. (I'm a bit biased towards TP.) Has he captained anything before, though?
By a process of elimination, there really wasn't anyone else.
The ball tampering saga
Actually, Bailey and Watson are two in the category of recently retired (or not, in Bailey's case!) Test batsmen who could have been flown in for T4 if there really were no captaincy options within the team, along with Adam V, who I mentioned in a previous post is already there for media purposes.
But TP seems fine to me. And if that had not been the case, they could also just have proceeded captain-less and have had all the bowlers decide by consultation with each other.
But TP seems fine to me. And if that had not been the case, they could also just have proceeded captain-less and have had all the bowlers decide by consultation with each other.
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Scenarios:
1. The whole team, including reserve players and Lehmann stood down, at least for the 4th. Test.
2. Smith and Warner are obviously for the chop, as Smith admitted it was a decision of 'the leadership team'. Other than those 2, who else would be in the leadership team ? Lyon ? The rest are too inexperienced. So, possibly, Smith, Warner, Lehmann and one or two other players to be stood down. If Boof is found to be involved, he's gone, as Oz coach.
3. If the coach wasn't involved, the playing XI to cop it, leaving Handscomb and the reserve bowlers unscathed.
4. Just Smith, Warner and Bancroft to pay, with only those 3 to miss the 4th. Test. Future unknown.
There are more possibilities but it's becoming quite hypothetical to suggest further.
1. The whole team, including reserve players and Lehmann stood down, at least for the 4th. Test.
2. Smith and Warner are obviously for the chop, as Smith admitted it was a decision of 'the leadership team'. Other than those 2, who else would be in the leadership team ? Lyon ? The rest are too inexperienced. So, possibly, Smith, Warner, Lehmann and one or two other players to be stood down. If Boof is found to be involved, he's gone, as Oz coach.
3. If the coach wasn't involved, the playing XI to cop it, leaving Handscomb and the reserve bowlers unscathed.
4. Just Smith, Warner and Bancroft to pay, with only those 3 to miss the 4th. Test. Future unknown.
There are more possibilities but it's becoming quite hypothetical to suggest further.
Donny.
It's a game. Enjoy it.
It's a game. Enjoy it.
Fairfax article with time stamp 4:58pm just says:
"But whether he or fellow opener Matt Renshaw (37) completes the match remains to be seen."
and
"With the fourth Test in Johannesburg beginning on Friday, if any players from the Shield final are to be flown over a decision will most likely need to be made before Tuesday, when the Shield final is due to finish."
"But whether he or fellow opener Matt Renshaw (37) completes the match remains to be seen."
and
"With the fourth Test in Johannesburg beginning on Friday, if any players from the Shield final are to be flown over a decision will most likely need to be made before Tuesday, when the Shield final is due to finish."
I think people would be pretty naive to believe ball tampering in one form or another hasn't been attempted for decades from all sides.
Whether it be deliberately throwing the ball short of the keeper into a hard pitch, an "accidental" treading on the ball by shoe spikes, picking of the seam or having some form of lubricant placed in the hair or on the body that can aid the shining of one side.
I mean how many times over the years have we seen an Australian side on tour in England or Pakistan as an example succumb to generous amounts of swing from the home side.
Is that all down to atmospheric conditions or something more sinister?
While I don't condone what Australia has done it's not the first time ball tampering has been suspected and allegations made.
Why Australia chose to do it at all is shameful but why they did it so blatantly is mind boggling dumb.
Personally I believe a suspension and fine is adequate as the public shaming they'll have to carry for the rest of their careers will be the real penalty imposed.
Whether it be deliberately throwing the ball short of the keeper into a hard pitch, an "accidental" treading on the ball by shoe spikes, picking of the seam or having some form of lubricant placed in the hair or on the body that can aid the shining of one side.
I mean how many times over the years have we seen an Australian side on tour in England or Pakistan as an example succumb to generous amounts of swing from the home side.
Is that all down to atmospheric conditions or something more sinister?
While I don't condone what Australia has done it's not the first time ball tampering has been suspected and allegations made.
Why Australia chose to do it at all is shameful but why they did it so blatantly is mind boggling dumb.
Personally I believe a suspension and fine is adequate as the public shaming they'll have to carry for the rest of their careers will be the real penalty imposed.
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He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD!
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The most shameful day in Australia's cricket history since the underarm incident with Trevor Chappell back in 1981.
It's a shame because I thought Smith was well on the way to being regarded as one of the all time greats of Australian cricket, but this fiasco will always be associated with him unfortunately and there's no way around that.
Seems as though there's a major power imbalance between the leadership group and players like Bancroft who are still going through the process of establishing their credentials at the top level. I wonder how complicit Bancroft was in this whole situation, so it raises further questions to his overall involvement and whether he pressured into doing this act or not.
I agree with Mugwump that a major culture shift has to take place if Australian cricket is to get it's act together, because our reputation has taken a battering amongst the cricketing fraternity all across the world.
A good first step that Smith and Warner have stepped down from their leadership positions. However, what comes next remains to be seen and the hypotheticals that Donny posted earlier raises more questions than answers so it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
It's a shame because I thought Smith was well on the way to being regarded as one of the all time greats of Australian cricket, but this fiasco will always be associated with him unfortunately and there's no way around that.
Seems as though there's a major power imbalance between the leadership group and players like Bancroft who are still going through the process of establishing their credentials at the top level. I wonder how complicit Bancroft was in this whole situation, so it raises further questions to his overall involvement and whether he pressured into doing this act or not.
I agree with Mugwump that a major culture shift has to take place if Australian cricket is to get it's act together, because our reputation has taken a battering amongst the cricketing fraternity all across the world.
A good first step that Smith and Warner have stepped down from their leadership positions. However, what comes next remains to be seen and the hypotheticals that Donny posted earlier raises more questions than answers so it will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
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