Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.think positive wrote:w.........
personal responsibility. l.......
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Of course he would say that, he's partisanstui magpie wrote:An opinion.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/29/poli ... index.htmlWashington (CNN)A top official at an influential coalition of Jewish Republicans on Monday defended President Donald Trump's response to the mass killing at a Pittsburgh synagogue, arguing those who say Trump's harsh rhetoric has stoked national divisions are trying to "score partisan political attacks."
"There are too many people who are using this tragedy for partisan gain," Matt Brooks, who runs the Republican Jewish Coalition, told CNN.
He called Trump's condemnation of anti-Semitism in the wake of Saturday's shooting "very powerful and very strong" and said he has encouraged White House officials to stay the course in the days ahead.
However for a more considered view try this by a non party member and an older person:
From an essentailly right of centre newspaper
Ethno-nationalism, petty politics and resentment of Jews: Pittsburgh shows us an antisemitism for the 21st century
https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/t ... y-1.471762
Trump et al need to stop pedalling hate about minority groups for base politcal reasons.
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Every alternate view is partisan at the moment.watt price tully wrote:Of course he would say that, he's partisanstui magpie wrote:An opinion.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/29/poli ... index.htmlWashington (CNN)A top official at an influential coalition of Jewish Republicans on Monday defended President Donald Trump's response to the mass killing at a Pittsburgh synagogue, arguing those who say Trump's harsh rhetoric has stoked national divisions are trying to "score partisan political attacks."
"There are too many people who are using this tragedy for partisan gain," Matt Brooks, who runs the Republican Jewish Coalition, told CNN.
He called Trump's condemnation of anti-Semitism in the wake of Saturday's shooting "very powerful and very strong" and said he has encouraged White House officials to stay the course in the days ahead.
However for a more considered view try this by a non party member and an older person:
From an essentailly right of centre newspaper
Ethno-nationalism, petty politics and resentment of Jews: Pittsburgh shows us an antisemitism for the 21st century
https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/t ... y-1.471762
Trump et al need to stop pedalling hate about minority groups for base politcal reasons.
CNN, MSNBC, Times, Post and yes FOX are all partisan now - this is the biggest issue.
And Trump attacks the dregs of society for ALL groups. There is no minority / majority. He is an equal opportunity caller out of hate and violence. Its the Media who try to make out that MS13 are full of misunderstood youth and when Trump attacks them he is actaully attacking all non white race groups.
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watt price tully wrote:Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.think positive wrote:w.........
personal responsibility. l.......
I cant even....thats a long winding road you've used to connect the dots that suits your narrative. I mean this nutter has a history and part of that is attacking Trump and his policy on Israel.
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Well, not yours, obviously, since your response suggests that none of those words has any meaning.MJ23 wrote:Agree - the problem is by who's definition does a political view become divisive, hateful, rhetoric ?Pies4shaw wrote:There is an obvious difference between expressing a political view, on the one hand and peddling deliberately divisive, hateful rhetoric on the other.
Currently its the left who have this as their talking points attacking Trump, his Admin and republicans. Ironically they do it through divisive, hateful rhetoric.
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Nice photo of the POTUS. Oh wait, it's not. False analogy. No hypocricy because the analogy is simply false.Wokko wrote:
Now where that pizza shooting you attirbuted to Clinton: that's right it was fake news from you.
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If you choose not to see then that limts your capcity to see. Either its simplisitic or its a long winding road. Now wait it's bothMJ23 wrote:watt price tully wrote:Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.think positive wrote:w.........
personal responsibility. l.......
I cant even....thats a long winding road you've used to connect the dots that suits your narrative. I mean this nutter has a history and part of that is attacking Trump and his policy on Israel.
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Again, my point exactly. Its simple disguised by a long winding road.watt price tully wrote:If you choose not to see then that limts your capcity to see. Either its simplisitic or its a long winding road. Now wait it's bothMJ23 wrote:watt price tully wrote: Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.
I cant even....thats a long winding road you've used to connect the dots that suits your narrative. I mean this nutter has a history and part of that is attacking Trump and his policy on Israel.
You use a lot of words in a long winding argument that doesn't say anything much other than your one talking point. Its not simple language. Its actually condescending....and repetitive.
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