4th. Ashes Test. Manchester.

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Sids has 2/12 from 7 overs.

15 overs for the match, so far. 3/23.

Derby 5/88.
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8/112.

Marsh has 2 wickets. Starc 3/39.
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Australia win by an innings and 54 runs.

Starc took 7/85 for the match.
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Starc took 4/39, Marsh 2/5, Siddle 2/21 and Neser 1/14.
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Looks like Starc in. Rest Cummins ?

Lubu in means Wade (likely) or Harris out.

No further change but for the possible Sids back in for Pattinson.
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If Khawaja plays as opener, or even at three, we should try to find a bookie that offers bets on mode of dismissal and load up on caught behind or at slip.

Sadly, I'm not sure such bets exist.
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K wrote:On the other side, playing a specialist batsman at 7 is odd --- and, like Wade, if you can keep but aren't keeping then you are picked as a specialist batsman.
Yep. I didn't reckon on them wanting to give Marsh batting time.
This could be because they are secretly considering Marsh instead of Wade.
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Australia consider Mitchell Marsh for Matthew Wade switch

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id ... ade-switch

' "He played very well that innings he made a hundred," Hohns said of Wade. "Unfortunately things have not quite gone his way since then. That will certainly be an area we are having a look at.

"It has been difficult up top for both teams, the opening bowlers with that new ball, conditions that seem to have prevailed, it has been very, very difficult for any player who has batted in the top three. We are mindful of that. We are also mindful of the England bowlers have bowled very well to our guys, particularly our left-handers, so we will certainly look at that as well."

Labuschagne is certain of retaining his place thanks to a trio of half-centuries after substituting for Smith at Lord's and Headingley. Where he bats will be another conversation, though it appears most likely he will move up to No. 3 behind David Warner and Usman Khawaja.'
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On the correct pronunciation of Marnus's surname:

'Best of all, it turns out that the Welsh are among the very few people who can pronounce his surname correctly. “They can say the ‘ccchh’,” he rasps. “Labuscaccchh-nee. But I just stick to ‘Labushane’ now. Otherwise it becomes a kerfuffle.” '

(J. Liew, The Independent)

Beware: that second "a" is a British "a" vowel sound. The cricket.com.au way of writing the pronunciation is
"Lah-boo-skuhk-knee".
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The only factor, or should be, when pronouncing a sportsman's name, or any name, is how they pronounce it. It's their name. Their choice.

So, if a person wants to be 'Co-burn', instead of the way it looks (Cockburn), fine.

I well remember comms getting twisted knickers over Nicky Boje's (former Proteas' spinner) name.

Instead of simply going to the teams' dressing room and asking him, they tried: Bo-zhay, Boy-ay, Boy-er, Boo-yeah, B'zhere, Bo-jay etc.

Same with Murali and other Sri Lankan players, when they appeared on the International cricket scene. Comms would muddle through with their own versions. Again. Just go and ask the player or team management.
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J. Liew's telling sounds like he's pretty chuffed that the Welsh can pronounce it correctly (but the only possible difficulty is the consonant sound at the end of the third syllable).


The complication is that it sounds like he also wants simplicity, so if people are going to botch it, he (moreso his wife) finds it easier if they just go with an Anglicised version.


It's not uncommon for that to happen, and players can be inconsistent in what they tell journos. (And Demetriou was mocked for pronouncing Camporeale's name correctly at the Brownlow night, because an Anglicised version was the norm. He said that he called the household, and Scott's father told him how to pronounce it.)
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M. Taylor, Healy, I. Chappell all want Khawaja to be dropped.
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Preferring Harris?
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Yes. Partly because the selectors can't (or won't) chop and change to the extent of dropping someone after a single game.

The real question is who is a worse nicker.
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"England batsman Joe Denly has confirmed he will open the batting in the fourth Test at Old Trafford, with Jason Roy to move down the order to No.4."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/joe-den ... 2019-09-02
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