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David wrote:Oh, I have no doubt there are plenty of MAGA-hat-wearing women cheering it on. It’s an ideology of hatred and dehumanisation that’s the problem.

Can’t help but wonder if rusted-on Republican voters ever read stories like this and think, for just a moment: "Are we the baddies?"

https://youtu.be/ToKcmnrE5oY
You think so?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-4GxbdEmp ... e=youtu.be
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Cute youtube videos aside, more than 2 million illegals have crossed the US border by that Biden / Harris have failed to stop. It's expected to be 2.3 million by the end of the year which is up from last year's record of 1.7 million illegals.

It's a problem created by the current Government, but they are too busy tearing down statues of historical oppressive white men to be worried about today's problems.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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David wrote:Firstly, it's nonsense to say that the problem is "created" by the government. …../
Indeed. It merely shows that whatsinaname likes the Murdoch press.

It’s simplistic and foolish in the extreme to say that Governments cause the current migration which one would expect from MAGA supports or nut jobs from the GOP.

The issues are complex and that was an excellent response David to that rubbish.

There are many episodes on This American Life that go to the issues regarding the migration and the victims stuck at the border. This is one of them:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/770/my ... act-two-11
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watt price tully wrote: one would expect from MAGA supports or nut jobs from the GOP.
What’s the difference? Aren’t they the same group of morons?
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lazzadesilva wrote:
watt price tully wrote: one would expect from MAGA supports or nut jobs from the GOP.
What’s the difference? Aren’t they the same group of morons?
Ur right, it ought to have been and other nut jobs not or
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No David, the States actually have very little authority over immigration. It’s a Federal Government responsibility.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/07/07 ... ce-border/

Biden and Harris are ignoring the border crisis. I suspect because it was a big part of Trump’s appeal so they are doing a complete 180 rather than softening the hard edges of Trump but maintaining stricter borders. FFS Harris didn’t even visit the right Town when she visited the Southern border to show her support for America.

Don’t get me wrong, Trump is incompetent. But Biden is an equally incompetent.
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In a show of rare idiocy, the Republicans are ripping themselves apart over the appointment of a speaker in the House. I understand that this the first time in a century that the matter hasn't been decided in the first round of voting. Three rounds of voting were conducted today and the minority Democrat led the vote in all 3. If the extreme right doesn't buckle and get behind the slightly-less-extreme right (ie McCarthy), I suppose there is some weird (albeit very remote) prospect of the Democrat minority leader being made Speaker, since one assumes the sane Republicans (is that an oxymoron?) won't back a neo-fascist.
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Not all Republicans are right-wing nutjobs, just as not all Greens are identity-politics nutcases.
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From a distance, it does seem like it's a pretty hard time for anyone with a shred of reasonability to be in the Republican Party right now, though. There are certain basic litmus tests that a great many of them have failed of late.
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roar wrote:Not all Republicans are right-wing nutjobs, just as not all Greens are identity-politics nutcases.
You might wish to revisit this, the GOP just voted in an election denier to be speaker and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The Author is more or less a moderate Republican supporter:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... moderates/
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So MSM, what about the income Biden failed to declare on his tax return?

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/01 ... d-n1662135
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One consequence of mainstream political parties making claims of widespread electoral fraud: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-17/ ... /101865212
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What'sinaname wrote:So MSM, what about the income Biden failed to declare on his tax return?

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/01 ... d-n1662135
One of the problems quoting extremist right wing nut job media is that it can bite you on the bum. Fact checking proved the issue to be hot among the right wing media and those who choose to read that drivel but wrong and false:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... megaphone/
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Here, in a nutshell, is a beautiful example of the hypocrisy of the neo-fascist obsession with "freedom": https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... es-florida

If it wasn't so serious, it would be ridiculously funny.
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