Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
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Just another layer to add to our draft machinations is the strong showing of two Suns Academy players in the U17 Futures G F curtain raiser.
Given both their performances, I have no doubt the Suns would have considerable interest in our future first rounder during this trade period. Should Collingwood choose to trade out their F1, then I fully expect the Suns would have parted with their pick 12 as part of any exchange. Watch this space.
Given both their performances, I have no doubt the Suns would have considerable interest in our future first rounder during this trade period. Should Collingwood choose to trade out their F1, then I fully expect the Suns would have parted with their pick 12 as part of any exchange. Watch this space.
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Re: Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
Noble, future first and Pick 33 out in exchange for Gold Coast Picks 12, 20 and 37 In
If Joe Richards goes to Port, we get Pick 36.
Bundle Picks 48 & 51 for Brisbane's future 3rd
Trade Picks 36 & 37 to Carlton for Pick 31 and a future 3rd
This would give us a 2024 draft hand of 12,20,31 and 84
Draft Harry Armstrong and one of the Whitlock twins(would prefer Matt Whitlock- 199cm defender who can swing forward) with 12 & 20- and hope that Noah Mraz (198cm defender) or Christian Moraes (183cm wingman- slides to pick 31
Obtain Perryman (186cms & 84kgs) as Unrestricted Free Agent
Losses: Noble, Richards, Future First and Picks 33, 36,37,48, 51
Gains: Picks 12, 20, 31 and Future 3rds (Brisbane & Carlton)
If Joe Richards goes to Port, we get Pick 36.
Bundle Picks 48 & 51 for Brisbane's future 3rd
Trade Picks 36 & 37 to Carlton for Pick 31 and a future 3rd
This would give us a 2024 draft hand of 12,20,31 and 84
Draft Harry Armstrong and one of the Whitlock twins(would prefer Matt Whitlock- 199cm defender who can swing forward) with 12 & 20- and hope that Noah Mraz (198cm defender) or Christian Moraes (183cm wingman- slides to pick 31
Obtain Perryman (186cms & 84kgs) as Unrestricted Free Agent
Losses: Noble, Richards, Future First and Picks 33, 36,37,48, 51
Gains: Picks 12, 20, 31 and Future 3rds (Brisbane & Carlton)
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If this eventuates, I would be very happy with this but given Fly's players over picks comments this week it would seem we'd be chasing Houston, Lord + others with one or more of those picks instead
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I want a DNA test of Armstrong. We may be able to get him under father-son...
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Re: Thinking ahead to 2024 draft...(and beyond)
Port want Lukosius
Gold Coast want Noble
Collingwood want Houston
There is synergy there.
Current Picks:
Port Adelaide: 36, 54
GC: 6, 12, 20, 26, 38, 46, 74
Collingwood: 33, 48, 51
The Suns want a first-rounder for Jack Lukosius, the Power want that and more for Dan Houston.
Gold Coast’s willingness to pay part of Jack Lukosius’ contract will likely impact trade negotiations with Port Adelaide.
Can we pay some of Noble contract (contracted till 2026) to offset GCs contribution? Using salary cap to improve our bargaining position to get Pick 12 instead of giving up our Future 1st, in this deal anyway.
Gold Coast want Noble
Collingwood want Houston
There is synergy there.
Current Picks:
Port Adelaide: 36, 54
GC: 6, 12, 20, 26, 38, 46, 74
Collingwood: 33, 48, 51
The Suns want a first-rounder for Jack Lukosius, the Power want that and more for Dan Houston.
Gold Coast’s willingness to pay part of Jack Lukosius’ contract will likely impact trade negotiations with Port Adelaide.
Can we pay some of Noble contract (contracted till 2026) to offset GCs contribution? Using salary cap to improve our bargaining position to get Pick 12 instead of giving up our Future 1st, in this deal anyway.
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If we get pick #12 we could land Taj Hotton...According to rookie central he's currently ranked at that number. Imagine picking at that old wound. Tony Shaw would have a stroke.
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I imagine at some point early in the trade period, we will end up with one only of the Suns pick 12 ( Noble + ?? ) OR pick 20 ( Noble as something close to a straight swap )
Either of those picks are significant in this draft. The club can then either trade on for a ready made quality footballer or take it to the draft in a strong pool of talent. Flys comments would have you believe we’d prefer to trade on but other than Houston, there’s no one who has publicly declared they are looking for a new home, who is worth departing with either of those picks ( the Lord talk has been driven by Collingwood supporters, not Lord )
Watch for the pick split where we trade in a “ needs “ player for either 12 or 20 and we then receive that player plus a later pick back in return ( maybe even a future, especially if we trade out our F1 )
In a draft where the “ experts “ are saying there’s more talent than usual in the thirties, it wouldn’t surprise if we load up with all our picks in the thirties and forties this year.
The good news is, if we don’t move on either 12 or 20, at least we will have something to get excited about on night one. This year pick 20 is set as the last pick of round one but will likely blow out to 24 or 25 on the night ( after bids and F A compensation )
Either of those picks are significant in this draft. The club can then either trade on for a ready made quality footballer or take it to the draft in a strong pool of talent. Flys comments would have you believe we’d prefer to trade on but other than Houston, there’s no one who has publicly declared they are looking for a new home, who is worth departing with either of those picks ( the Lord talk has been driven by Collingwood supporters, not Lord )
Watch for the pick split where we trade in a “ needs “ player for either 12 or 20 and we then receive that player plus a later pick back in return ( maybe even a future, especially if we trade out our F1 )
In a draft where the “ experts “ are saying there’s more talent than usual in the thirties, it wouldn’t surprise if we load up with all our picks in the thirties and forties this year.
The good news is, if we don’t move on either 12 or 20, at least we will have something to get excited about on night one. This year pick 20 is set as the last pick of round one but will likely blow out to 24 or 25 on the night ( after bids and F A compensation )
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Racking the brain here... the old man Trent came to training half pissed? And got the nickname Trent Hothead? Olli Hotton fell to pick 35, but was expected to be much higher? (We took Jakon Ryan at 28 and Ed Allan at 18). I'd be somewhat shocked if we drafted Taj.
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If I remember it rightly the rumor was that Trent, after getting the boot, sold out Tony's playbook. At the time we were doing a lot of set play type of ball movement and we were improving. Suddenly it all went sideways, the spoon, and badda-bing badda-boom Tony's gone. And to rub salt in the wound Hotton got another go a couple of years later with Carlton. Don't know how true it was, but they were the rumors and it seemed to explain a lot.
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I recall the playbook rumours but the rumour was it wasn't alcohol he was under the influence of, allegedly more of a tablet type substance.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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I remember Alan Richardson talking Trent into playing at East Burwood. Trent had a cracker of a year and helped win the Premiership and was picked up by the Blues. I catch up with Trent a few times a year at past player functions. He's never mentioned anything to me about the playbook. I will ask him when I next catch up with him. He's very calm these days and I feel his experience has helped his kids. I can't see us looking at Taj simply because he isn't 194cm plus.
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Wouldn’t help that Taj is currently recovering from an ACL. Hes has got some serious tricks but his knee injury will likely see him slide a few spots down the draft order though.
Wouldn’t help that Taj is currently recovering from an ACL. Hes has got some serious tricks but his knee injury will likely see him slide a few spots down the draft order though.
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Another thought / observation about using our hoped for pick 12 on a forward. Charlie Curnow was drafted pick 12 in 2015. It then took him 6 years to reach the next level. Would we be as patient as a supporter base should we go for H.Armstrong (or similar)?
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Given our current draft hand and considering several factors, I just posted in another thread, a case for trading Vrs and drafting.
That said, If there is a good chance to select H. Armstrong at pick 12, I'd go for it.
That said, If there is a good chance to select H. Armstrong at pick 12, I'd go for it.
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Loved his ( interrupted) U18 championship series. I’d be shocked if Armstrong was still there at #12.
I would expect Richmond will pull the trigger on him first, possibly with # 6 ( Rioli trade ) and that would drift out to #7 or #8 on the night.
Loved his ( interrupted) U18 championship series. I’d be shocked if Armstrong was still there at #12.
I would expect Richmond will pull the trigger on him first, possibly with # 6 ( Rioli trade ) and that would drift out to #7 or #8 on the night.
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