Post Match. Suns sink Pies. All comments, please.

[watt price tully]

It was hard to watch the match today, very hard. I took an annual leave day as the dribs and drabs of the fixture releases came after my rosters at work were posted.

Think I’ll put in a formal complaint against my manger for approving the leave

[Piesnchess]

I feel a wee bit better now, just saw that wonderful mark by young Murphy, it was very reminicent of that Nick Riewolt grab of years ago. fantastic grab by the young guy, he will be terrific for us, and others too. Also, Crows, Port, and Hawks all got absolutely smashed, thats good too see. !

[Big T]

P P, but ONE big difference to the Shaw yrs was we were totally a skint Club then, broke, skint, and we arent now, nothing like it, Back then, Eddie came in and got us out of the red, and into the black with some great sponsorships, hard work, he did do a lot for us back then, regarding finances. I heard him say recently we have $25 million in the bank. So off field we are in a much better position to back then, no comparison in that area. Its just onfield, thats our big problem now, and as you say, its going to take time. Or as Churchill said, " blood, sweat, and tears". Two years at best, id say.

We can't use any money on players or football staff due to socialism so what difference does any of that make apart from having no home ground and no soul???

[PyreneesPie]

. Also, Crows, Port, and Hawks all got absolutely smashed, thats good too see. !

Can't help but ease the pain a little, eh Piesnchess? And Cats got pipped on the siren too, with Cameron believing he'd marked it in the last seconds, but non-awarded.

[Piesnchess]

We can't use any money on players or football staff due to socialism so what difference does any of that make apart from having no home ground and no soul???

Mate, our home ground is the MCG is it not ?? If u mean a proper Social Club, i take your point, that would be good to have at last.

[Piesnchess]

. Also, Crows, Port, and Hawks all got absolutely smashed, thats good too see. !

Can't help but ease the pain a little, eh Piesnchess? And Cats got pipped on the siren too, with Cameron believing he'd marked it in the last seconds, but non-awarded.

Yeh and seeing Duckwood sooking post that loss made my day a bit more pleasant. LOL. No doubt other Clubs fan sites, the ones who got annihilated today, are going just as ballistic as ours is. Thats footy.

[mackasmatt]

People on here need to calm down about Buckley.

Look at our list.

We do not have a list capable of finishing in the top 8, regardless of who is coach. Look for positives and small improvements.

Look at who we drafted recently:
- 2012: Grundy, Kennedy, Broomy, Ramsay, Williams
- 2013: Shaz, Freeman, Langdon, Marsh, Dwyer, Oxley
- 2014: De Goey, Moore, Maynard, Goodyear
- 2015: Sier, Phillips, Wills, Crocker
- 2016: McLarty, CBrown, Kirby, JDaicos
- 2017: Stevo, Murphy, TBrown
- 2018: Noble, Q, Kelly, Atu
- 2019: Rantall, Bianco, Ruscoe

Cancel culture has swung the axe at one of the tallest poppies, our beloved club. Now we are no longer the destination club we once were. Equalisation has also killed us.

[The Boy Who Cried Wolf]

. Also, Crows, Port, and Hawks all got absolutely smashed, thats good too see. !

Can't help but ease the pain a little, eh Piesnchess? And Cats got pipped on the siren too, with Cameron believing he'd marked it in the last seconds, but non-awarded.

Yeh and seeing Duckwood sooking post that loss made my day a bit more pleasant. LOL. No doubt other Clubs fan sites, the ones who got annihilated today, are going just as ballistic as ours is. Thats footy.

To be honest I thought the feedback today was pretty tame all things considered, I suspect it's because most of us are just numb of it.

[watt price tully]

People on here need to calm down about Buckley.

Look at our list.

We do not have a list capable of finishing in the top 8, regardless of who is coach. Look for positives and small improvements.

Look at who we drafted recently:
- 2012: Grundy, Kennedy, Broomy, Ramsay, Williams
- 2013: Shaz, Freeman, Langdon, Marsh, Dwyer, Oxley
- 2014: De Goey, Moore, Maynard, Goodyear
- 2015: Sier, Phillips, Wills, Crocker
- 2016: McLarty, CBrown, Kirby, JDaicos
- 2017: Stevo, Murphy, TBrown
- 2018: Noble, Q, Kelly, Atu
- 2019: Rantall, Bianco, Ruscoe

Cancel culture has swung the axe at one of the tallest poppies, our beloved club. Now we are no longer the destination club we once were. Equalisation has also killed us.

“Cancel culture has swung the axe at Collingwood”

The report?
The reaction to the report?
The reaction to Eddie’s yet again (unintended) foot in mouth?

A loaded term to be sure.

In my best Pauline Hanson voice “please explain”

I agree with trying to find the positives from the draft. I really hope Bianco can make it. He is skilled on both sides of his body like McCrae.

[Cruisinwithdids]

^ Buckley's responsible for the way we play and the types of players we recruit.

When it comes to the salary cap debacle, we have to look at the list management personnel.

With respect Jezza, Bucks didn’t back end Treloars contract, Bucks doesn’t do the recruiting. As I said earlier his time is up but he shouldn’t be blamed for things he is not responsible for. He is responsible for selection, style of play moves etc and where we currently stand.

His game style is too defensive for the modern game & he does not adjust to rule changes - the game plan is too slow. He had players behind the ball early yesterday. Buckley is also responsible for telling Treloar the players didn’t want him which was a cruel lie. He is also responsible for not telling Stevenson he was on the trade table. He is also responsible for criticising Mayne in the media for the length of his contract. He is responsible for blaming the colour of the jumpers on last weeks loss. With Buckley & McGuire everything is always someone else’s fault. McGuire blamed the media for his downfall. Buckley & MCGuire are not a leaders

[Cruisinwithdids]

Why do posters keep trotting out the same old issues/complaints that have been done to death already? Or aren't they aware of this because they don't bother to read anyone else's posts except their own?

huh?

Aaah, I know you read other people's posts TP.
It's just that some say nothing but spew out negative diatribe, when it's already had a zillion comments made about it over the past few weeks. Don't they get tired of repeating their same old words over and over again? Do they ever acknowledge someone else's comments that have already been made about the topic, in order to create a constructive discussion? Rarely.

We need a bit of perspective and a bit of gumption to ride out the storm that will happen over the next few years.

Change needs to occur for the club to move on. Change means change in the coaches box, change to recruiting, change to governance within the club, change to expectations set by the club. The key to commencing a rebuild is being honest in the acceptance of where the club stands. Maybe if the club stopped saying we are still gunning for the finals & Nathan Buckley is the messiah, supporters would be less critical in their analysis. Supporters can then start to become satisfied by little things. It’s called honesty, and the has not been honest with its people.

[warburton lad]

Went to my first game since the 2018 Grand Final.

Positives-

Murphy- in only his 4th or 5th game showed the courage every Collingwood player needs to demonstrate if we are to climb back up the ladder.

McCreery- gut runs and never gives up

McRae- is a little gun-shy at present, but can find the ball.

Poulter- once he adapts to the tempo, will shine- has class written all over him.

Quaynor- a delight to watch his run and carry off half back.

Keane- took three or four solid marks in the second half- is very raw, but will develop- we must wear some days when he will be soundly beaten by more experienced player along the way.

Mihocek- a delight to watch- a real tradesman-like performance- could easily have kicked six goals-with decent supply against North next week he may kick a lazy seven goals...100% respect..

Cameron- not up to his Anzac Day heroics, but this is a very raw tall player early in his career. I would not be disappointed if he were given more time on ball and Grundy played more forward. Inexperienced players take time.

Negatives

Thomas- a 2 touch first half was really poor- essentially unsighted.

Mayne- made way too many howlers for a player of his experience.Is immensely popular among the playing group, but should play out the year in the seconds

Pendlebury- is the unfortunate person to be handed the ball even when he is not the best choice to receive it- Yesterday, he was like a Grand-Master at a Ruben Cube tournament- everyone handed him the ball when they had run out of ideas.

Sidebottom- is not an inside mid or a full time on-baller, but was expected to carry the load in the absence of Sier/Adams et al. Sidey needs to play forward to complement McCreery as the crumbing forward.

Moore- the great Tony Lockett would not have had any impact yesterday given the poor entries inside 50. He is a victim of an appallingly disorganised forward line which has no clear leading patterns amongst its' constituent members.

Coaching panel.

I wrote a few weeks back, we seem to play constipated footy. Please tell our players to play with the courage to make mistakes, but do so from an attacking rather than defensive mindset.

The times yesterday when our players would flip the ball around by hand in a tight space without actually moving it forward was incredibly hard to watch.

Please support our younger backs by putting All-Australian Moore back there to lead the mob.

Play Callum Brown in the guts in Adam's absence and let him hunt the ball.
Please play Tyler Brown every game to see what he can do in the centre.
Have Pendles and Sidey change as ruck-rovers to extend their shelf-life.

Left with five minutes to go- only buoyed by the performance of a few young players on the day and Sier, McInnes, and a few others the night before.

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[MatthewBoydFanClub]

People on here need to calm down about Buckley.

Look at our list.

We do not have a list capable of finishing in the top 8, regardless of who is coach. Look for positives and small improvements.

Look at who we drafted recently:
- 2012: Grundy, Kennedy, Broomy, Ramsay, Williams
- 2013: Shaz, Freeman, Langdon, Marsh, Dwyer, Oxley
- 2014: De Goey, Moore, Maynard, Goodyear
- 2015: Sier, Phillips, Wills, Crocker
- 2016: McLarty, CBrown, Kirby, JDaicos
- 2017: Stevo, Murphy, TBrown
- 2018: Noble, Q, Kelly, Atu
- 2019: Rantall, Bianco, Ruscoe

Cancel culture has swung the axe at one of the tallest poppies, our beloved club. Now we are no longer the destination club we once were. Equalisation has also killed us.

Dig a little deeper. The 2013 draft was a disaster. That’s poor selection. Then we come to the two first round draft picks we gave up for Treloar, another couple for Beams, another first round draft pick for Stephenson and all for zero return. That’s all self inflicted by the club. It’s delusional to say it’s because of the AFL equalization scheme. If we keep making excuses for the position we’re in, we’re never going to improve. Just accept we’re here to stay at the bottom of the ladder.

[neil]

Predictable outcry by some posters
Guess what ??? The players are also to blame
It is not just the coach the players are also to blame
Why didnt our midfield man up when the ball was turned over
If your direct opponent is 40 meters away from you then it is your fault not the coach

Poulter went well for a first game
Buckley is gone at the end of year

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Predictable outcry by some posters
Guess what ??? The players are also to blame
It is not just the coach the players are also to blame
Why didnt our midfield man up when the ball was turned over
If your direct opponent is 40 meters away from you then it is your fault not the coach

Poulter went well for a first game
Buckley is gone at the end of year

Yeah. Let’s blame Poulter, Murphy, Keane, Cameron, MaCrae, Rantall, Tyler Brown, McCreery and Henry. All their fault. Seriously what are we expecting? Yesterday’s game was always going to be tough. I said before the game that I was hoping for a win but not all that confident. The players are the last people we should be blaming. They’re doing their best. GCS had about six players out there, some gun midfielders, mostly high end first round draft picks. Where were our first round draft picks yesterday? Oh, that’s right. We frittered them away on Treloar, Stephenson and Beams. Yeah, keep keep blaming the loss on the players. That should make them play harder against North next week. And the week after that against Sydney.