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stui magpie wrote:Having said all that, I'll repeat the question I asked earlier as I really don't get all this gender stuff, if someone identifies as non binary and wants to play competitive sport, who do they play against? What competition do they join?
It’s a tough question and one I was discussing with a friend myself the other day. I suppose it’s something you’d have to ask individual non-binary people about (I certainly can’t speak for them), but my guess is that they’d either settle for competing with their birth gender, push for a separate competition (which probably isn’t really viable), seek to have women’s sports extended to non-binary participants (there’s some precedent for this happening in other women-only spaces), just sit out gender-segregated competitive sport altogether or seek to abolish gender segregation in sport altogether. I’m guessing different people will give you different answers.
think positive wrote:as for the bolded, so yeah, lets just cut natural born females out of sport full stop! cos thats what that means.
Might be the only way to stop the whinging.
In all seriousness, though, women’s sport is alive and well. In one of those articles I posted above, I read that the most recent summer Olympics relaxed entry rules for trans women for the first time. Guess how many transgender women competed? Zero.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
think positive wrote:as for the bolded, so yeah, lets just cut natural born females out of sport full stop! cos thats what that means.
Might be the only way to stop the whinging.
In all seriousness, though, women’s sport is alive and well. In one of those articles I posted above, I read that the most recent summer Olympics relaxed entry rules for trans women for the first time. Guess how many transgender women competed? Zero.
if you really want to stop me whinging send those 57 black guys back home, the ones that got picked up this week for home invasions - oh wait now im racist!
its only alive and well because they didnt compete - just wait til they let that trans on the footy team! and its actually not alive and well, just ask the sprinter in the video, the cyclists who have been beaten, the former holder of the sprint world record, yeah im guessing they dont think its all good!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
I don’t know why an6 didn5 compete, bu5 the6 are breaking world records so obviously it’s not because they are not good enough. Not good enough for men’s maybe.
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
stui magpie wrote:Having said all that, I'll repeat the question I asked earlier as I really don't get all this gender stuff, if someone identifies as non binary and wants to play competitive sport, who do they play against? What competition do they join?
It’s a tough question and one I was discussing with a friend myself the other day. I suppose it’s something you’d have to ask individual non-binary people about (I certainly can’t speak for them), but my guess is that they’d either settle for competing with their birth gender, push for a separate competition (which probably isn’t really viable), seek to have women’s sports extended to non-binary participants (there’s some precedent for this happening in other women-only spaces), just sit out gender-segregated competitive sport altogether or seek to abolish gender segregation in sport altogether. I’m guessing different people will give you different answers.
Interesting article. Despite the sympathy toward the subject, they do state that the science is clear that men have an advantage.
A large part of the rest I just can't get my head around, I guess I'm stuck in the binary view.
Born one sex but having problems with that identity I can get, hence transgender people. But identifying as neither I just don't get. What exactly is the bit they're rejecting? The stereotype of how a male or female behaves ?
There's a whole industry based around the binary and improving conditions for women whether it be pay, management/leadership roles or non traditional work (like STEM) so I can see why many in that industry would have issues with breaking down the binary.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
"Mummies, I'm a boy."
"Ugh, men are disgusting, evil, rapists!"
"Mummies, I'm a boy."
"Enough of your oppressive, patriarchal bullshit!"
"Mummies, I'm a non=binary, two-spirit pansexual."
"We love you Caius".
