Biden presidency and 2024 election campaign

[Pies4shaw]

Which 3 workers do you say are looking to take an "independent road" at the moment? Try to keep it a little bit real.

[Magpietothemax]

Which 3 workers do you say are looking to take an "independent road" at the moment? Try to keep it a little bit real.

It is already starting to happen, without you realising it:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/1 ... m-n09.html

[stui magpie]

So what actually comprises "The Working Class" these days? How do you define a "Worker"?

Is it anyone who draws a salary? Does it exclude Managers who get a salary? Does it include knowledge workers or is it purely blue collar unionised workers?

If I own a Kebab shop/bakery/cafe/fruit & Vege shop and work 60 hour weeks myself but also employ a few staff am I a "Worker" or one of the elite capitalist class?

Just trying to understand , I really hope your New World Order doesn't foresee the CFMEU running the country.

[stui magpie]

Back to the debate quickly, saw this on Twitter, Gold.

https://x.com/Ruggsly/status/1806530918 ... 43/photo/1

[Pies4shaw]

So what actually comprises "The Working Class" these days? How do you define a "Worker"?

This is clear, Stui - "workers" are all those with 4-wheel drive vehicles that aren't Range Rovers.

[Magpietothemax]

So what actually comprises "The Working Class" these days? How do you define a "Worker"?

This is clear, Stui - "workers" are all those with 4-wheel drive vehicles that aren't Range Rovers.

So you two think that all the commodities in the world, cars, trucks, aeroplanes, food products, computer chips, ...just emerge out of thin air?

[stui magpie]

No, I asked a legit question. How do you define "The Working Class"?

[stui magpie]

So what actually comprises "The Working Class" these days? How do you define a "Worker"?

This is clear, Stui - "workers" are all those with 4-wheel drive vehicles that aren't Range Rovers.

That's ironic, I qualified as a "worker" after I stopped working.

[Pies4shaw]

^ It's not too late to get a Range Rover, of course.

[What'sinaname]

I guess the outgoing CEO of Boeing is a worker.

[stui magpie]

^ It's not too late to get a Range Rover, of course.

Nah, I'd never buy an English car, they're over priced rubbish. Mind you, I believe the Rolls Royce engines performed well when taken from the confines of a pimped out hearse and put into a fighter plane, but that may just be a 75 year old rumour.

[David]

[What'sinaname]

Apparently, agreeing to hold the debate before the 2024 DNC is because many Democrat members don't want Biden to run. Unfortunately, the real President, Dr Jill is insistent that Joe run and a sitting President is not seriously challenged.

It is hoped that the embarrassment in the debate will convince Jill that Joe should step down.

However, as we've seen, she's set the bar low. She celebrated that Joe answered every question.

[stui magpie]

@ David, with that description of the Democrats clear incompetence as a party, you have to think how the hell they could actually govern anything regardless of who was notionally in charge as POTUS.

On the other hand, the Republicans allowed themselves to be taken over by the Cult of Trump.

And I thought Australian politics was in a mess.

[pietillidie]

Yeah, they're trapped in a race to the bottom. Biden is there because he beat Trump last time and his policy outcomes were ultimately pretty good in the circumstances. He would presumably have retired gracefully in advance in normal times, but he's locked to Trump and the Trump cult defines everything.

Add a creepy politically appointed Supreme Court that interprets the ancient books literally or metaphorically to suit the extremists, throwing the odd bone to pretend to look non-political, and they have no backstop in law, either. Meanwhile, their ridiculous adoration of an executive grants far too much power to the presidency, meaning one fruitcake can wreck everything. Add a bizarrely backward level of religiosity, and here we are.

It's very hard to see a positive outcome at this stage, but there's still time for them to shift gears. At least there is now strong impetus to replace Biden.